good quote

Jun. 28th, 2005 07:49 pm
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Yum.

"Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right." - Unknown

Date: 2005-06-29 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draiguisge.livejournal.com
Oh dear. I've got to write that one down ...

Date: 2005-06-29 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-valan-che.livejournal.com
Amen

(big huge grin)

Date: 2005-06-29 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coraljune.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness, yes.

religion or morality

Date: 2005-06-29 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swansister.livejournal.com
That quote refects exactly why I feel that at times I have more moral quality that many christians I know.

Swansister

Re: religion or morality

Date: 2005-06-29 01:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelidon.livejournal.com
I tend to frame this as the difference between having a well-developed internal moral compass, or having an externally-imposed moral code. If you never have to decide things for yourself, determine what is really, truly "right" for you, you never have to actually face, deal with, or learn from the hard choices. It's like having a car drive you every place you need to go (or, perhaps, wherever the car wants to take you ;>). If you never walk for yourself, you'll always be dependant on that car, and your own muscles will atrophy, to the point where you couldn't walk a mile if you wanted to.

Which is not to say that all religious codes and leaders do this -- a few do encourage and provide support for people making their own choices, finding their own paths, instead of just blindly parroting the stock answers "from the book."

Date: 2005-06-29 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitten-goddess.livejournal.com
By that standard, the Nazis would the most religious people in the history of the planet.

Date: 2005-06-29 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelidon.livejournal.com
Their religion was the State. Deutschland uber alles. It even had all the trappings of High Ritual. The Nazis knew exactly what they were doing,

That is precisely why it is so very, very dangerous when any country lets religion and government mingle, as the neocons are pushing to do in the U.S. It strongly tends to lead to a total prohibition against questioning the decisions of the State, because after all, not only do they have secular authority, but "God is with us." Anyone who questions what the government tells you is clearly not just a secular radical, but "against God." Thus come the burnings.

Date: 2005-06-29 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] threefrognight.livejournal.com
And don't forget, fortune cookies are against god. Or maybe that should God. Still working on that one, though...

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