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Guantanamo inmates can be held 'in perpetuity'- US

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican senators called on Wednesday for the rights of foreign terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay prison to be legally defined even as the Bush administration said the inmates could be jailed there "in perpetuity."

As I wrote a while back, the scandal is not primarily about mistreatment, though each allegation of abuse tarnishes the image and reality of the U.S. further. The issue is the complete lack of accountability and due process. I think Amnesty International overstated the case by calling Guantanemo a "gulag." That comparison does not necessarily do justice to those poor legions who lived and died in the real gulags. But we're certainly moving in that direction, and I can sympathize with Amnesty International's desire to do and say something dramatic to raise this issue to national and international consciousness, and precisely like a real gulag, prisoners at Guantanemo are imprisoned because "someone" decides they belong there, with no recourse to anything resembling actual due process, and they stay there until the same "someones" who put them there decide they can go free, with no hope of oversight or expectation of actual justice.

And even for those who disagree with the term Amnesty International used, would a group of Republican senators now be paying any attention to this issue if AI hadn't caused an uproar and made the news? Probably not. Because this has finally become a public issue, there is some hope for change.

"In perpetuity." What an inhumanly rational-sounding term to describe a modern-day oubliette. Shame on us.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaidevis.livejournal.com
Ah, what a small world LJ is. I saw your name elsewhere, paused, said, "No, it can't be..." and sure enough it was. Why the heck didn't I figure out you were hanging out here before? Anyhow, good to read your words again; I've missed your commentary and insight since my days on the zee-list.

--Fenwick

Date: 2005-06-16 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelidon.livejournal.com
Hey there, how totally great to see you here! Hot damn. Though I've had a LJ account, I just started posted here a few months ago. I've always had something of a LJ aversion, but, hmm, looking at my posting history, I guess I overcame it somewhat ;>

Funny synchronicity, I was just talking to several people over the last few weeks about Fotamecus, and its evolution, so of course I was talking about you and some of the early zee-list work, etc. Fotamecus has gone on to become quite the far-flung egregore/godform, eh?

My partner has been doing very deep work with with time for a number of years now -- I posted one of her writings about it here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/chelidon/42154.html), you might be interested.

Thanks for the kind words, I've missed perusing your rants musings as well, will look forward to reading them. You still in Kalifornica? A cluster of us emigrated to northern New England a couple of years ago to put together a somewhat permaculture-based hermitage, and the flocking behaviour seems to be accelerating-- another two old friends arrive to the area today, and one of our former coven-sisters and ex-housemates from the D.C. incarnation of Casa Chaos is moving in sometime in the next few weeks, and more people are on the way. Weird and wonderful. Pics of our place are <a href="http://www.mythosphere.com>here.</a> Looking forward to more chats!

Date: 2005-06-16 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelidon.livejournal.com
I seem to be unable to form a valid URL today. The house/land pics are here (http://www.mythosphere.com).

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